How did millions and millions of Australians die?

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How did millions and millions of Australians die?

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My points:

The Mad Max trilogy was "conceived" in the eighties. Right? From George Miller's perspective at the time, real life Australian population was: 1980 14,726,000 16.3%

Moving from that perspective, we must assume that population in the MM1 future was about 15 millions of people, and not 22 like today.

Now:

1- Australia wasn't nuked. They just bombed out three or four cities (maybe). Sydney was bombed out.
2- Nuclear winter in-between MM1 and MM2 only lasted one year or so. It was cold and terrible. Marine regression and all.
3- Cities in riot. Okay. Destruction. Okay. No fuel for everyone, no food for everyone, no everything for everyone. Okay.
4- Viruses or deseases. Maybe.
5- No electricity? Of course.

But there was the Wasteland to escape in, as seen in MM2.

But is it enough to kill 15 millions of Australians in 2 or 3 years? :o :o :o
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Lack of proof is not proof of lack...
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PursuitSpecial wrote:Lack of proof is not proof of lack...
Are you saying that... it can happen?
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I don't know. It was the first thing that popped into my mind...
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Uncle Entity wrote:My points:
Now:

1- Australia wasn't nuked. They just bombed out three or four cities (maybe). Sydney was bombed out.
2- Nuclear winter in-between MM1 and MM2 only lasted one year or so. It was cold and terrible. Marine regression and all.
3- Cities in riot. Okay. Destruction. Okay. No fuel for everyone, no food for everyone, no everything for everyone. Okay.
4- Viruses or deseases. Maybe.
5- No electricity? Of course.

But there was the Wasteland to escape in, as seen in MM2.

But is it enough to kill 15 millions of Australians in 2 or 3 years? :o :o :o
It WASNT nuked??? Um... plenty of references in MM3 say it was..
The "poxyclipse" reference....
Max using his gieger counter over the water... "Whats a little fall out"?
And the total collapse of society means the loss of the governments and police force...
Sydney was not conventionally bombed as can be seen in the clip... as every single window is missing and every building lays waste. Russia at the time did not or would not have bothered to conventional bomb the crap out of cities.
Nor did it have any aircraft with enough range to reach Australia without multiple refueling along the way.

The fact that the buildings are still standing but completely damaged means a nuclear device was droped just outside of the metro area and the shock wave did the rest of the damage.

The sum of 15million is kinda high though... as worst 6 million in the first 2 or 3 yrs.

Sydney, Canberra and Melbourne would be the most inviting of targets as they all contain government and military bases and large population. Pine Gap, the old CIA listening post and early warning system in central Aust would also more then likely receive one as a jesture of good will!
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^ 8-) Damn!! You guys are thorough...
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Let me ask a few questions...

Do you know how to make a shelter to keep warm in cold weather? How to make one to keep you cool in Hot?

Do you know how to collect water in dry conditions? How to purify what water is found to remove fallout, bacteria or toxins?

Do you know how to hunt & clean animals and gather edible plants for food in the wilderness?

Can you start a fire without matches or a lighter?

I'd say 5%-10% of the population of "Civilized Countries" like Great Britain, the US or Australia can answer yes to all those questions.

These skills are an absolute necessity for surviving outside of the artificial world of the "Civilization".
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isn't something like 90% of australia's population on the coast? a little rising seawater might take car of most of us :lol:

as for escaping to the wasteland, isn't that kinda like going to central australia to look for the 'inland sea'??
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Max using his gieger counter over the water... "Whats a little fall out"?

Fallout travel all around the world, as well as the "nuclear winter". But there was a LIMITED nuclear exchange between few nations. Australia wasn't one of them. It was just bombed out.
However, global climate had changed and Australia goes hit by hard rains and fallout, and experiences periodical nuclear winters.

In Australia, everything collapsed because people. No food, no money (useless), no energy. panic. Terror. Annihilation.
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Uncle Entity wrote:Max using his gieger counter over the water... "Whats a little fall out"?

Fallout travel all around the world, as well as the "nuclear winter". But there was a LIMITED nuclear exchange between few nations. Australia wasn't one of them. It was just bombed out.
However, global climate had changed and Australia goes hit by hard rains and fallout, and experiences periodical nuclear winters.

In Australia, everything collapsed because people. No food, no money (useless), no energy. panic. Terror. Annihilation.
Fallout would disipate enough if it was a "limited" encounter as you say. It would not encircle the globe.
The guy with the water wouldve got the water from an area which was still affected by fallout, had fallout encircled the globe everyone would be dead within a matter of months from radiation poisoning.

The two mighty warrior tribes who went to war at the time could only be the USSR and the USA.

If we are to use "real world" parallels then the "bombing of Australia" using conventional weapons is not going to happen.
The USSR would not be able to field large quanties of bombers to fly 15000km to drop conventional bombs in large numbers on Australian cities. It is not possible to do so then and now. It is also not tactically intelligent should such a feat be tried.
At the time (1980s) the USSR and the USA had some 3500 wareheads attached to ICBMs, each!
It would be a matter or turning the key to launch... and then going to the shelter.

Planning to fly 15000km ???? The tanker support would be impossible for a start..... the flight crews wouldnt be able to stay awake either....

China back in the 1980s only fielded a handful of medium range bombers and would also not be able to reach us.
Indonesia, Malaysia aslo back in the 1980s had no capability to bombs us (and they still dont).
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