"The Praetorian" original script treatment by John Collee

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Mad Serge
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"The Praetorian" original script treatment by John Collee

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The Praetorian

This is the Origin story of the Furiosa character in Fury Road.

George described the various story beats in some detail then I went away and wrote it as a 30 page outline.
https://www.johncollee.com/storylines

For those of you who had the opportunity to read this treatment: what are the similarities and differences between it and the final movie?
TheFilmist
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I've read it. When I find some time, I'll transcribe the major differences here in detail.

I won't send the thing out just yet, because I'm very paranoid and I don't want to get sued or anything if that's even a possibility.

Also, if anyone has read any later drafts, I'm curious about those - because there are a lot of differences from the first treatment to the final film and I'd love to see how we got there.
narphe
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I found this reddit comment talking a bit about the script


" I'm of two minds about this, because I read the first draft for Furiosa and I'd gotten used to the idea of her being a former wife of Joe who has a wellspring of anger toward him. But, it was a very general draft that was written 17 years ago - and I do really like what we got in Furiosa the Film. Plus, that's all I've read - for all I know, they could've made this change as soon as the second draft.

In the first draft, she's kidnapped by Dementus and traded by him to Immortan specifically because Dementus knows the Immortan likes young women, and he's trying to foster political relations. So, Joe hires Dementus to help him destabilize Gastown, because People Eater is being an upstart and he wants to install one of his sons as the leader in a silent coup.

That situation goes on for years, and meanwhile, Furiosa becomes a Wife - and if I recall, she becomes a Wife as a child. She's a Wife for years, and her and the other Wives become addicted to a fertility and euphoric drug that the Immortan gives them. . .and then it turns out, ironically, that it's made them infertile, so he throws them out and they're put up for auction.

Praetorian Jack (or, The Praetorian) buys Furiosa - but not as a slave. He sees something in her. After months of helping her through drug withdrawals, the script then progresses much as it does in the finished film. . .with various first-draft differences all throughout. One important difference is that Joe is as callous as he is in Fury Road, and when Praetorian Jack dies and Furiosa makes it back to tell him, he makes it very clear that he doesn't care and laughs in her face. There's also a great moment when, as she's trying to escape from her death trap, a War Party literally drives right past her and takes no notice of what she's going through.

But, there's your answer. My only issue that I can't quite resolve is - this is the backstory Theron was given for Fury Road. Without it, what real anger does Furiosa have toward Joe? Where does her visceral hatred for him and the motivation for "remember me" come from?

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TheFilmist
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Oh hey, that's my comment!

So, there you are. There's more small differences obviously, but those are the major ones.
narphe
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haha , small world :') I guess it would be okay to release the script , once the final script treatment for furiosa will be online , in general it happen during oscars seasons when the members read scripts for the awards
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narphe wrote: Fri Jun 07, 2024 6:10 pmMy only issue that I can't quite resolve is - this is the backstory Theron was given for Fury Road. Without it, what real anger does Furiosa have toward Joe? Where does her visceral hatred for him and the motivation for "remember me" come from?
This is the biggest problem with Furiosa. It's not that we know she was a wife from the storyboards, interviews or whatever source. It's that the film all but told you she was a wife and Theron played the role to perfection. You could really see she had a past with the Immortan and this was her driving force to get payback. Once Fury Road was out many of us figured out her story. Almost exactly.

In Fury Road we see a woman is in a high position in charge of Warboys where her word is not be questioned. She is trusted to drive the War Rig and her experience shows she has done this for many years. Any other woman we see in the Citadel is a wife or milker. It is a male dominated society so somehow she worked her way up to this position. We learn all this in the 5 minutes she is first shown. We also learn later that she was taken from her home as a child and has been trying to find her way back ever since. With that you can already start piecing it together.

She was found in the Green Place by the Immortan's forces or she was kinapped and sold to the Citadel. She became a wife. Since she is not a milker we can figure out that she was unable to conceive. Since she drives the War Rig we can piece together that she must have been given to the Imperator of the War Rig who thought her driving and warfare. He must have died and she was trusted to take over his place as the War Rig Imperator. Now that she drives a War Rig she prepares her escape plan. Instead of going on her own she wants to really hurt the Immortan so she kidnaps his wives. Reversing her story with the wives instead being kidnapped from the Citadel and brought to the Green Place.

Fury Road was able to tell all this without saying a word of it. It is a masterclass of show don't tell. I did really enjoy Furiosa but it is not a prequel story to the character we saw in Fury Road. By taking away her being a wife it strips Theron's Furiosa of her motives for revenge while creating a lot of storytelling problems.

Wether it was studio interference, modern audiences not being ok with it, George changing his mind about hurting the main character, actors refusing to play those roles etc. Regardless they changed it and I don't think we ever find out why. I did really enjoy the film and appreciated it more the second watch knowing they created a new back story.
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I'd say it works on it's own, and as a prequel to FURY ROAD, with the caveat that it does rewrite FURY ROAD's emotional narrative slightly, in retrospect. I mean it is powerful stuff that we get in FURIOSA, but you're right that it's not exactly the backstory that's implied from FURY ROAD.

I think it may just be something as simple as Miller not wanting to repeat himself again in terms of thematic beats - he did the preeminent "human beings in general and women in particular as chattel" story in FURY ROAD; he said what he needed to say. So, why not flip the script and present a more pure, direct parable about revenge and hope and let the audience fill in the gap in-between?

Much like HAPPY FEET TWO (although he was much less successful with this reversal for. . .reasons) - the first HAPPY FEET is concerned very much with religion, with the environment, with the generational gap and so on. HAPPY FEET TWO is very much about none of those things - it's about solidarity; what vestiges of the first film's themes that remain are pretty much all in the background.

He likes to zig where people think he'll zag, I guess!
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