My biggest problem with the movie

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It looks like the Apocalypse happened many decades before the events of "Fury Road". You get mutants, you get "sophisticated" gangs and an "established" post-apocalyptic world... it takes much time to develop that!
On the other hand, Max has pre-apocalyptic memories... so how much is Max old in this new universe? I just find hard to believe Max had a normal life before the apocalypse and be 35 in the post-apocalyptic world.
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Uncle Entity wrote:On the other hand, Max has pre-apocalyptic memories...
Are his memories pre-apocalyptic? Maybe he was a kid when the apocalypse occurred.
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i'm sure you'd figure out how to manipulate the timeline to benefit your fanfiction website.
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Uncle Entity wrote:It looks like the Apocalypse happened many decades before the events of "Fury Road". You get mutants, you get "sophisticated" gangs and an "established" post-apocalyptic world... it takes much time to develop that!
On the other hand, Max has pre-apocalyptic memories... so how much is Max old in this new universe? I just find hard to believe Max had a normal life before the apocalypse and be 35 in the post-apocalyptic world.
It's a leap you're just expected to go with in the movie and - I'd assume - proof the script wasn't altered much between Gibson dropping out and Hardy jumping in. The movie's world is very clearly post-Thunderdome if Gibson's there but doesn't really make sense chronologically with Hardy and the Interceptor. It's something you'll either go with or you won't.
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blackmocco wrote: It's a leap you're just expected to go with in the movie and - I'd assume - proof the script wasn't altered much between Gibson dropping out and Hardy jumping in. The movie's world is very clearly post-Thunderdome if Gibson's there but doesn't really make sense chronologically with Hardy and the Interceptor. It's something you'll either go with or you won't.
Which is funny because even with Gibson on board it wasn't supposed to be a sequel to MMBT. Imagine the clusterfuck of speculation if you saw old Gibson in a new MM movie that looks like a sequel to Thunderdome but isn't because he's driving BoB again and perhaps his backstory is now slightly different. It's not something new for Miller to re-use actors in different roles in the same franchise but holy hell would he have to explain in each interview what his movie is. As if it wasn't enough he's said it's a re-imagining of the franchise this time around and some people STILL don't get it.
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Also worth noting that given the recent interview with Brendan McCarthy that it sounds like Miller could of been trying to retcon Thunderdome with Fury Road being the true sequel to Mad Max 2.

Anyways if we were to use the first film as a starting point with Max say, 21 years old, working for the MFP or "cop" as the world goes to hell and then use Hardy's real age to put Max 37-40 years old in Fury Road...plenty of time for theorize I'd say. :lol:

Isn't that about the length of time that's canon between Mad Max-Thunderdme? 13-15 years?
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Taipan wrote:
blackmocco wrote: It's a leap you're just expected to go with in the movie and - I'd assume - proof the script wasn't altered much between Gibson dropping out and Hardy jumping in. The movie's world is very clearly post-Thunderdome if Gibson's there but doesn't really make sense chronologically with Hardy and the Interceptor. It's something you'll either go with or you won't.
Which is funny because even with Gibson on board it wasn't supposed to be a sequel to MMBT. Imagine the clusterfuck of speculation if you saw old Gibson in a new MM movie that looks like a sequel to Thunderdome but isn't because he's driving BoB again and perhaps his backstory is now slightly different. It's not something new for Miller to re-use actors in different roles in the same franchise but holy hell would he have to explain in each interview what his movie is. As if it wasn't enough he's said it's a re-imagining of the franchise this time around and some people STILL don't get it.
Yeah. I wonder if the Interceptor would have even featured in this had Mel been onboard...? Indirectly or not, it would have been the only element stopping it from picking up the story however many years later.
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blackmocco wrote: I wonder if the Interceptor would have even featured in this had Mel been onboard...?
Yeah! The Interceptor was supposed to be in there with Mel playing Max! The story was pretty much the same. Essentially Fury Road was never supposed to be a sequel to the original trilogy (I believe it was said in an interview with Brendan McCarthy), but instead a reboot/restart/reimagining/whatchacallit with Mel as Max again. I'll bet my left ball there's info here on this board somewhere but for the life of me I can't find it, it's been discussed after furyroadcars confirmed the 2002 Interceptor photo was the same car that was eventually used in Fury Road which means it was supposed to be in the script with Mel attached to it. Then I believe someone brought up an interview with McCarthy explaining his vision/script was no different from what he had seen briefly before Fury Road started shooting in 2012 and it was always a reboot. A reboot with Mel in it. It's mind boggling why Miller would still use the same actor for a reboot but then again... Gyrocaptain. I'll try to find the exact thread and quotes for this because this stuff is pretty interesting.

And this would actually make sense if Miller wanted this movie to be 'sort of a sequel' to RW, ignoring MMBT altogether but making use of its desert-aesthetic. Mel's age would also fit into that 2002 Fury Road/RW sequel cause honestly - Max doesn't look in his 40's in MMBT.

God damn you Miller, you and your ideas.
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Taipan wrote:but then again... Gyrocaptain.
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