Mad Max: Fury Road Theatrical Teaser Trailer #1

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Yeah, i'm just happy a new Mad Max movie with the original creator and some awesome cast is coming out.
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Yok wrote:All I see is "WAA WAA WAA WAA", what were you expecting? It's Hollywood!

Can't people just be thankful that they MADE a new movie?

If it looks shit, don't watch it.
So with that mindset, you'd be okay if they had a scene with Max having sex with a goat? Or perhaps if they corporate sponsorship throughout the film - cans of ice cold Pepsi, everyone wearing Nike running shoes, and the women all carrying Coach handbags? GMAFB. It does matter, because this is a great series of movies at risk of being ruined by a potentially shite installment, just like other franchises.
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leadcounsel wrote:
CouplaDaisygo wrote:
leadcounsel wrote:I am even more pessimistic. ... real stunts and explosions my ass.


Ok, then again, point out exactly which stunts you think are not real....


0:38 - dude with two spears jumping from semi onto spiked car followed by explosion.
Reality = Stunt Dude composited seperately. Cars and explosion were real

0:56 - driving into huge sandstorm. Obvious fake. I've been in huge sandstorms. While they are sometimes big walls like this, it's just too fake.
Reality= Yup CG sandstorm. you SERIOUSLY think they would have a film schedule that has: "wait months for big sandstorm.... take vehicles and crew to Iraq...."
Perhaps you think they should have destroyed Sydney for Beyond Thunderdome rather than using models?

1:05 - silver truck jump is probably fake, and the guy standing on the side of the truck is fake
Reality= Real Jump on Goanakontes road. Heading south west to "goanakontes oasis"

1:07 - two cars exploding and flipping are probably fakes or at least have added CGI
Reality= 100% real, no cgi


1:27 - high speed spinning vehicle with two people on it, appears to be fake and CGI added people
Reality= Real stunt with stunt driver and Tom's NewZealander stunt double, performed at Lichen Fields North of Hentes Bay

1:34 - people being driven over appears to be fake CGI (can't tell because of the other complaint of shaky cam and quick shots)
Reality= Real filmed people + real filmed Gigahorse

1:44 - Max dangling on pole in front of semi- appears fake
Reality= Yeah Tom composited in front of real explosion... because if YOU were directing you'd put your main actor on a pole on a moving vehicle in front of exploding trucks right?

1:45 - huge explosion engulfing several vehicles is embellished by CGI
Reality= Real explosion on real truck filmed on location outside hentes Bay. Nearby vehicles also real but filmed seperately and composited to truck footage

1:56 - the big collision with 4 people flying all around is obviously fake
Reality= Yes,storm scene the only main CGi sequence, uses lots of real vehicle footage and fullsize gags with actual stunt cars

2:01 - the vehicle is 50 feet in the air flying around in a storm, there's lightning and perhaps a tornado... good grief. It's like a 10 year old made this scene... =Yeah, your idea of a two hour film of Max driving around looking for old car parts would have been a blockbuster hit


So, that's just from a 2:30 minute trailer... we learned nothing of the story, no acting. Just one big adrenaline rush of visual motion, explosions followed by more explosions...
Reality= Yeah, don't you hate it when a film trailer doesn't spoonfeed you the entire story so you know the whole plot and ending

I can tell that I'm going to be very disappointed by this film.
Reality= Yeah not enough shots of looking for old car parts in dustbins.

The rumors I've read here are that the movie has big problems both with the film and management/producers and the film has once again been delayed and more money poured into it to fix these issues.
Reality= Testing incredibly well and achieved picture lock a while ago.





These movies stand the test of time = Yet would be unreleasable now.

Seems Fury Road is just going to lack honest substance = Except It is wall to wall with actual real car stunts filmed on location and fight scenes largely filmed on moving vehicles



Suddenly in FR every car in the chase is carrying TNT that just self-denotes into one more impressive explosion after the next, bigger and more impressive explosion...
=Yes, it's a war party and the vehicles carry explosive grenades made from old coke cans and tanks of fuel for flamethrowers etc.

I get the feeling the FR folks were at a loss of what to do.... Sure, your ideas for the film would have been such a HUGE success. They could probably have managed a screening at the Dapto RSL club before the chook raffle.
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leadcounsel wrote:
So with that mindset, you'd be okay if they had a scene with Max having sex with a goat? Or perhaps if they corporate sponsorship throughout the film - cans of ice cold Pepsi, everyone wearing Nike running shoes, and the women all carrying Coach handbags? GMAFB. It does matter, because this is a great series of movies at risk of being ruined by a potentially shite installment, just like other franchises.

But they didn't.. but at least we now know what kind of bestiality enters your mind
Lucky they DIDN'T include ANY of those things and it's full of more REAL STUNTS than the three previous films

I'm suprised you are not complaining that the cast are too unrealistically atractive. Perhaps it would have been better if the five wives all looked like Gina Rinehart
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Owned ! You showed 'em CouplaDaisygo :lol:
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CouplaDaisygo wrote: I'm suprised you are not complaining that the cast are too unrealistically atractive. Perhaps it would have been better if the five wives all looked like Gina Rinehart
No issues with the attractive women - as I understand it they are meant to be sex slaves, bred, toys, what have you. Fits in with the idea of that. There were attractive women in the other films.
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If MM2 was coming out today, people would complain about the fake CGI.

Go figure.

One thing certain:

The original is a hard hitting film because Miller needed to make an impact, and violence is always a good way to make an impact in the film industry (witness how crap films like the Saw series catapult their directors on the map).

The second is more hollywoody, while still retaining the hard edge of the first, only toned down a bit, because by that time, Miller needed to get away from being a cult, exploitation director, and more a respected one, with perhaps a plan to make it in hollywood.

The third is a total sell out, basically it's Temple of Doom done by Miller. Disappointed the fans, but got Miller even more general recognition on the hollywood map.

New one is Miller trying to find back a bit of the early days rage. He doesn't need to be recognized in Hollywood now, he is part of the establishment. So it's him having real free fun with Mad Max for the first time since MM2. It will kick ass.
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Stunts aren't "REAL" stunts when they are done in a green room jumping onto foam mats and super-imposed onto the movie. "REAL" stunts aren't super-imposing people onto jumping vehicles. Take RW - the biker who flew head over heels, did that for real and it was awesome. The car that flew into the compound, real people.

As for EVERY bad guy car exploding, they aren't carrying nitro glycerin for goodness sake. Not very effective hand grenades or flame throwers - if that's the excuse - if they are all just self detonating driving over bumps at high speed.
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To be honest, as frustratingly narrow minded and short sighted as I find leadcounsel's posts, I feel he/she is being singled out here.

During the pre-production and filming of Fury Road it was like they couldn't do anything right by our standards and I totally understood why the prodco forcefully kept their distance from us. Everything was torn to shreds from the concept art, to the script extracts, to the interviews, to the behind the scenes shots. We kept complaining the story was wrong, the timeline was messed up, the concepts were too comic book, the script extracts too hollywood, and the vehicles too wacky races. Miller himself was attacked over and over with calls that his integrity had been lost and he'd sold us all out.

Then the teaser comes out and we're all over the place. It's pretty much everything we feared, but there's these neat nods back the original movies and stunts are magnificent.

And something changed here. It was like Fury Road got accepted and suddenly we became the ones objectively defending the very criticisms we previously dished out.

Then it got weird. The trailer comes out and it all seems to have gone in an uncomfortable direction. Worse still, the very elements that blew our minds the first time round now literally alpha-masked behind unnecessary cgi dressing that detracts more than it brings. It's comical not only in intended tone but sadly in unintended production limitations.

And now it feels like we've taken some sort of emotional ownership of Fury Road and any criticism or concern is a personal attack. I'm struggling to get my head round it. Perhaps it's because we feel Mad Max is slipping from our grip as cult fans and being diluted into the masses as a whole new franchise that's moved on from us. Maybe we're just convincing ourselves something's there that really isn't so we can desperately cling onto something intangible but very personal.

It's like we've gone from the fanbase to fanboys (and girls), it feels like daring to critique or even interrogate what little we have is considered wrong here now while some individuals, the very members who were so quick to write the movie off if it was anything but realistic, seem to be losing their minds to be first in line, dressed in cosplay, at the stiles on opening night.

I honestly think that, right now, if I were to suggest Immortan Joe looks a bit silly, I'd be stonewalled immediately with people playing the 'well it's Hollywood, you leave Miller alone!' defense card.

Have we just completely lost our integrity and objectivity and prepared to forgive a multitude of sins on the basis a few vehicles have been jumped and crashed into one another?
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MWFV8

We've talked shit about FR early on because we didn't know what it was. After all this time and info we got it's safe to say it's not a sequel to MMBT nor a continuation of the original trilogy. It's a new thing and that's where the problem begins for people who can't comprehend it. Some of them compare FR to the original trilogy, which they shouldn't. Some judge it by old movie making standards which they shouldn't. That's why some of us are 'defending' FR because we're rooting for a new MM movie we've been waiting 30 years for. And that's not 'fanboyism'. I'm sure all of us won't put a blind eye to the shit this movie may or may not throw at us. After all MMBT has been almost universally shunned upon. But the last thing I want is so called critique because there's no Mel in it from people acting like they've woken up from a 30 year old coma.
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