Mad Max: Fury Road MAIN TRAILER

[MWFV8]

Indeed it's not uncommon for the fans to feel a greater sense of ownership than the content creators.

There's also the issue of different perspectives. For us we only see the finished movie. For the team behind it from the start they can often have envisaged something quite different and seen their baby distorted a lot during the pre-production phase. The result can be something that's far less precious to them because it's not really what they set out to make, it's the studio's movie.

Fury Road may actually be truer to Miller's early imagining to the Mad Max universe than any of the previous productions. We just don't know. And it doesn't seem that he really knows anymore either.

[MWFV8]

That gives some scope into the amount of f**ks Miller gives about timeline integrity.

Ain't that the truth.

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LMFAO!

[Taipan]

In all fairness Miller's saying he didn't even realise a lot of the absolutely obvious parallels in FR until they shot it.

Fury Road may actually be truer to Miller's early imagining to the Mad Max universe than any of the previous productions. We just don't know. And it doesn't seem that he really knows anymore either.

Those are some great points! Parallels in this whole series run deep, almost to a point that would make you think Miller is redoing the same movie over and over again. I'm exaggerating of course, but certain shots, plot elements, structure - it all feels like Miller is constantly trying to improve on the original idea he had and now - finally - he can do it with money and new technology. There was even a video comparing shots from MM to MM2 showing how they are almost interchangable. As for the plot - how many times is Max's car stolen and he needs it back for a favor? MM2, MM3, the game. In FR it's again taken from him. In recent interviews at early screenings or trailer reveals Miller said that he can't even watch the first MM because of how ashamed he is about how it turned out, so it looks like he's been refining that idea ever since. I mean of course, they all have different plots and are stand alone movies and all but yeah, parallels are very much there.

[MWFV8]

In all fairness Miller's saying he didn't even realise a lot of the absolutely obvious parallels in FR until they shot it.

Fury Road may actually be truer to Miller's early imagining to the Mad Max universe than any of the previous productions. We just don't know. And it doesn't seem that he really knows anymore either.

Those are some great points! Parallels in this whole series run deep, almost to a point that would make you think Miller is redoing the same movie over and over again. I'm exaggerating of course, but certain shots, plot elements, structure - it all feels like Miller is constantly trying to improve on the original idea he had and now - finally - he can do it with money and new technology. There was even a video comparing shots from MM to MM2 showing how they are almost interchangable. As for the plot - how many times is Max's car stolen and he needs it back for a favor? MM2, MM3, the game. In FR it's again taken from him. In recent interviews at early screenings or trailer reveals Miller said that he can't even watch the first MM because of how ashamed he is about how it turned out, so it looks like he's been refining that idea ever since. I mean of course, they all have different plots and are stand alone movies and all but yeah, parallels are very much there.

I think you just absolutely nailed it.

For the first time ever I'm actually pleased a timeline conversation has taken place, as it's lead to this!

You're right, he's pretty much been trying to tell the same tale over and over, but he's always been held back in some capacity. So he's retold parts in different ways, re-imagined tales from alternative perspectives, and replayed events as various spectacles.

[Stef-Man]

Nice. But a bit disrespectful though. The truth is (not out there): we can have different opinions! No need to mock my point of view.

[Stef-Man]

Yes, apparently, Miller doesn't give a shit about continuity questions. But maybe, I just said maybe, a continuity is possible between the four films. I just want to say that without ignite a pointless debate (don't get me wrong: pointless until the movie's released) between the pro and anti reboot thing. I just say there is a possibility that is the case. We have to actually see the movie. Maybe the reboot camp is right. Maybe not. Dunno. Right now, I think Fury Road can be seen as a reboot (I'm very open minded on this) by certain people, and also as a true sequel by others. Again we have to wait and see

Sorry Stef. I know there are some out there who need this to tie-in to the previous movies and are going to do everything in their powers to try and do so but there's no possibility. I've seen a rough cut. It doesn't hook up with the previous movies and your best bet to enjoy the experience is to let go of the connection, otherwise you're going to tie yourself in knots.

The only continuity involves the visuals, in that the elements from the previous movies are all there but retooled and rebooted for the 21st century. As someone mentioned, the James Bond movies are your best way to look at all this. It's a straight up re-imagining of Max's character and the world. Even his backstory is changed somewhat. With Mel on board, this could have easily been a straight up sequel set some time after Thunderdome but it's clear Miller doesn't really care about that now, with a new actor and a chance to tell new stories.

Thanks for your post, pal. I'll think about it

[DGSimo]

Of course FR is a reboot, no doubt about it. But there's a good chance it was a sequel back when Mel was on board, unless of course Miller would take the ultimate piss and create a re-imagining/reboot with the same actor in place.

I think it was a sequel way back when and after all the main lead swaps, adding things, removing them but keeping the core story essentially the same - Miller crated the most ambiguous reboot in the history lol

See, I think Miller planned it as a soft reboot from the start because honestly there were no official trades or confirmations of Mel being attached other than Miller saying "Uh huh. Yup. Can't have Max without Mel" and then he's meeting young talent like Heath Ledger. lol

Even by Miller's own words in Empire magazine a decade after the fact, he approached Mel for his production company to help finance and possibly star in the film and Mel only agreed if Miller took it to Fox just because it was a great bargaining chip Mel could play since he was wrangling a distribution deal for his company anyway. When 9/11 happened along with various other things and Fox and Mel couldn't meet a deal about his production company Mel buggered off both from Fox and Mad Max. I think George was just modest about the whole affair not wanting to shed a negative light on the whole affair.

Oh and Tom Hardy is in Vegas for CinemaCon so it's going to be a big presentation.

[Taipan]

I think George was just modest about the whole affair not wanting to shed a negative light on the whole affair.

It did look like Miller and Gibson were oddly diplomatic about their involvement, I thought it was because of Mel's crazy rants and bad PR, but it looks like there was a different side to the story.

[DGSimo]

I think George was just modest about the whole affair not wanting to shed a negative light on the whole affair.

It did look like Miller and Gibson were oddly diplomatic about their involvement, I thought it was because of Mel's crazy rants and bad PR, but it looks like there was a different side to the story.

Yeah which is why I don't think George really planned on having Mel back because of the crazy shit he and Brendan had cooked up that Mel might not be physically able to do and the sequel train had long missed it's stop by about 20 years. The fact he was meeting with young up and coming talent suggests George was ready to reboot Max and Brendan just wanted to cook up something that felt like it was a worth successor to Mad Max 2 than what we got with Thunderdome.

[biolumen]

I think Fury Road was going to be a one-off sequel with Mel back as Max.

Mel Gibson, who toplined the 1979 cult hit “Mad Max,” is returning to the franchise once again, this time at Twentieth Century Fox.

He’ll be paid a salary approaching $25 million under the helm of the original “Mad Max” director, George Miller, toplining a script that Miller has been crafting the last three years. Pic is entitled “Fury Road” and will once again feature Mad Max in the lawless, post-apocalpytic Australian outback.

Fox insiders say plans call for the $104 million megapic to begin lensing in Australia, with next May as the targeted start date.

“This is the most exhaustively prepared movie I have ever been associated with,” said Hutch Parker, the prexy of production at Twentieth Century Fox. “The script is as ready as they come.”

Miller got the rights to the Mad Max franchise back from Warner Bros. as part of a settlement with the studio in 1997. Warners, which released both “Mad Max: The Road Warrior” in 1981 and “Mad Max: Beyond Thunderdome” in 1985, gave him the rights after Miller — who’d directed and co-written all three movies — agreed to detach himself from Warner Bros.’ Jodie Foster-starrer “Contact” and allow Robert Zemeckis to helm.

Pic will be produced by Miller and longtime producing partner Doug Mitchell, and by Gibson’s producing partner Bruce Davey at Icon, which is also handling select foreign territories. Insiders familiar with the deal say Icon will sell the rights to Australia, England and one other unnamed European territory.

Talks started in earnest about 10 months ago, shortly after Icon signed a two-year first-look production deal with 20th Century Fox, ending a long-term association with Paramount. Then, at the start of the summer, secret script readings began in Bruce Davey’s kitchen.

Says Parker: “The script’s been so tightly controlled, it would have been easier to get into the NSA (National Security Administration).”

Deal marks both the first pic that Miller will direct since the 1998 sequel to his 1995 script “Babe,” and the first pic that he’s ever directed for Fox, which has been courting him for years.

The trilogy of “Mad Max” pics, for all their iconic value, amounted to a rather slender B.O., grossing only $69 million in total domestically. That’s partly because the 1979 original, released by Village Roadshow, Orion Pictures and AIP, was hardly seen Stateside at all. Franchise only grew significant with “Mad Max: The Road Warrior.”

But, says Parker, “there are so few roles that define ‘big screen action hero’ and this is one of them. This is an event movie, and we know how to market event movies. It’s Max the way you want to see him.”

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