Max's "madness" addressed in the original trilogy

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"There is a scene that was cut from the movie that shows Max becoming delirious and having hallucinations"

I wish they would have cut them from Fury Road. I believe it would have been a better movie without them.
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rustycarr wrote:
I wish they would have cut them from Fury Road. I believe it would have been a better movie without them.
No way. That's pure, bold genius. It makes Max 2 an even more original rendition of the character and, generally speaking, one of the most original action heroes in history.
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rustycarr wrote:"There is a scene that was cut from the movie that shows Max becoming delirious and having hallucinations"

I wish they would have cut them from Fury Road. I believe it would have been a better movie without them.
I think they could have been done much better and are certainly one of the biggest things I'd change about the film. I absolutely hate that its the Immortan's fleet running Glory over. They feel like some of those quick clips were hacked on.
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AquaCola wrote:
I think they could have been done much better and are certainly one of the biggest things I'd change about the film. I absolutely hate that its the Immortan's fleet running Glory over. They feel like some of those quick clips were hacked on.
It wasn't Immortan's fleet. That was an absolutely "made up" offspring of Max's hallucinations. They were not memories. Don't take them as literal.

Said that, the hallucinations are incredibly well-crafted and well-directed. "Hacked on"? What do you mean?
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I know its not Immortan's fleet that killed her. Thats my biggest complaint that they re-used a scene from later on in the film of Immortan's fleet and then stuck Glory in front of it. It really sticks out when I watch the film like it was rushed together at the end, they are quite blurry and badly edited over. Its strange cause the Citadel hallucinations are much better.
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AquaCola wrote:I know its not Immortan's fleet that killed her. Thats my biggest complaint that they re-used a scene from later on in the film of Immortan's fleet and then stuck Glory in front of it. It really sticks out when I watch the film like it was rushed together at the end, they are quite blurry and badly edited over. Its strange cause the Citadel hallucinations are much better.

Frankly, I don't think so at all. They are blurry because Max's hallucinating mind is combining two different memories into one.
Said that, the editing of that scene is great.
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I thought it was a second muddled premonition, similar to the hand to the forehead moment ... that the things he hallucinates are a jumbled mess, but on some level could be helpful as well as a hindrance.

As a function, some psychologists believe dreams are sometimes useful since they allow your brain to play out stressful situations which in turn allow you to handle future events in a more useful manner, it's possible that this is what Miller was partly alluding to
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Turbofurball wrote:I thought it was a second muddled premonition, similar to the hand to the forehead moment ... that the things he hallucinates are a jumbled mess, but on some level could be helpful as well as a hindrance.

As a function, some psychologists believe dreams are sometimes useful since they allow your brain to play out stressful situations which in turn allow you to handle future events in a more useful manner, it's possible that this is what Miller was partly alluding to

Yeah, good call.
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The intro monologue by the elder Feral Kid talks about the societal collapse and how 'ordinary men, men like Max' were 'battered and smashed'. And how after losing everything he wandered out into the wasteland as a 'broken shell of a man' and 'here, in this blighted place, he began to live again'. Not exactly saying he is crazy, but definitely implies he is suffering from psychological trauma.

The way I take RW is that he is not policing anything, he just wants to be left alone and is subsisting thru scavenging. He is basically hiding from the world, nursing his wounds, mental and physical. Obviously from the condition of the car at the beginning he hasn't really even fought anyone with it. No dents or damage, just faded paint and modifications for survival. It seems to me he has avoided rather than engaged other travelers. His actions with the Gyro Captain and watching from Mount Panorama say he is cautious and staying on the edges.
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DetritusMaximus wrote:The intro monologue by the elder Feral Kid talks about the societal collapse and how 'ordinary men, men like Max' were 'battered and smashed'. And how after losing everything he wandered out into the wasteland as a 'broken shell of a man' and 'here, in this blighted place, he began to live again'. Not exactly saying he is crazy, but definitely implies he is suffering from psychological trauma.

The way I take RW is that he is not policing anything, he just wants to be left alone and is subsisting thru scavenging. He is basically hiding from the world, nursing his wounds, mental and physical. Obviously from the condition of the car at the beginning he hasn't really even fought anyone with it. No dents or damage, just faded paint and modifications for survival. It seems to me he has avoided rather than engaged other travelers. His actions with the Gyro Captain and watching from Mount Panorama say he is cautious and staying on the edges.

Good points.
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