DetritusMaximus wrote:Back when I first saw Mad Max I was so disappointed that May S. missed ALL of the bikers with that shotgun. She was a great feisty old lady and should have taken at least one down. Even the gang realized they should not push her too far back at the house.
As a kid I thought that too, but then the gang would have stopped to take her out too and Max's subsequent arrival would have got messy story-wise. I was also disappointed that Jessie didn't try and bolt across the fields to slow the bikes down, but then perhaps audiences weren't ready for Bubba to gun then down from a distance, or the grass would have made it difficult to frame or something.
It is not change, it is status quo for mad max, in this story women have been bad ass, children have been bad ass, old people have been bad ass, full of physical determination and mental and moral resolve:
May Swazee
Warrior Women
Feral Child
Jedidiah Jr.
Aunty Entity
Savanah Nix
and my favorite, Anna Goanna
Savanah and Anna as essential to the progression of the plot as Furiosa.
I can sell you a set of 'lops for next to nothing.
Yes, but apart from Aunty Entity they haven't been key to the whole plot, and there haven't been a proportionate number to the men. Warrior Woman was probably the most frustrating, since she dies before getting to contribute much at all, as well as not getting a proper name.
Miller writes better women (and old people, people with disabilities, children, too) than is seen in the vast majority of action movies, but Fury Road is the first time you get to see that really dug into thoroughly rather than being a neat little touch.
Turbofurball wrote:Well, removing exclusion is also change
I know, I just see distinction between the change we have seen in the role of women in the past 100 years or so versus a deliberate desire to exclude women after said societal change has already taken place. Sometimes eliminating a 'negative' is still not the same as a 'positive'. Simple analogy, replacing a defective carburetor just gets you back to where you should be, but fuel injection is an actual improvement.
that's the creator of vagina monologues. she's "another person" that thinks there's a feminist angle only she actually has something valid to contribute to that movement: credibility.
Her interpretation brings no credence to the theory.
To which "theory" are you referring? Or did you mean to say "Therony", which would have made more sense.
I suspected this would not be a Mad Max movie, but rather a Charlize Theron vehicle... both figuratively and literally. I went anyway, hoping I would be surprised. I wasn't [in that respect, at least].
"Two days ago, I saw a vehicle that would haul that tanker. You want to get out of here? You talk to me."
That's interesting. Especially after Miller's interview with VICE (if I remember correctly) where he said all the consultants he hired for the movie were all equally important. There was Eve for The Five Wives, there was a military consultant for The War Boys (I think the actor who played The Ace was one of consultants, he's ex-SAS) and others. So yeah, who's saying that her contribution made it a feminist film again?
