If it makes anyone feel better, I saw "Expendables 3" last weekend that featured our hero Mel Gibson as the "bad guy" - I thought Mel's acting was uninspired and brought a flat, unconvincing feel to the movie (if I don't believe in the bad guy, why should I get excited about what happens to the good guys?). Anyways, during the whole movie I kept watching thinking "Is this the actor I would want to see playing Max in the new Fury Road?" Although Mel immortalized the original Mad Max movies with his awesome acting in (at least) the first two movies (MMBT = questionable), I think at this point in his career (or mental state, I'll let you decide), I think it's better to have a fresh faced person play Max along with a motivated cast, or else Fury Road would look like "Expendables 4" starring a whole bevy of aging (!) actors that would leave most people shaking their heads and the chance for another sequel shaky. Just my opinion - Let's rally around Tom Hardy and hope this is the beginning of a new chapter of well-made Mad Max movies.
Amen! Bad cop. Something I have been thinking about for years even watching the movie The Patriot. It was filmed about the time Mel would have played Max again had the sequel got off on the right foot around 2000-2001.
I do have a few nitpicks with weaponry though, as in the trailer we see Max using what appears to be a Glock, and his outfit seems to have AK magazines on it in the front pouch. While those firearms could have theoretically made it to Australia by that time I just don't see it as a likely occurrence, and the numbers in country would be fairly miniscule.
Actually, some bikies where caught on the Gold Coast in Queensland (for the overseas guys) with AK 47s just last week and its not the first time in Australia bikies have been caught with them.
And the Glock is the standard side arm for police in many parts of Australia, including Queensland, Western Australia, Tasmania, Northern Territory, South Australia and New South Wales.
I do have a few nitpicks with weaponry though, as in the trailer we see Max using what appears to be a Glock, and his outfit seems to have AK magazines on it in the front pouch. While those firearms could have theoretically made it to Australia by that time I just don't see it as a likely occurrence, and the numbers in country would be fairly miniscule.
Actually, some bikies where caught on the Gold Coast in Queensland (for the overseas guys) with AK 47s just last week and its not the first time in Australia bikies have been caught with them.
And the Glock is the standard side arm for police in many parts of Australia, including Queensland, Western Australia, Tasmania, Northern Territory, South Australia and New South Wales.
So its not really a stretch.
Oh, now it is entirely a possiblity, but I'm speaking from a late '70s/early '80s perspective, when the apocalypse seems to have happened in the movie universe. Neither weapon would have been very common. Fully-auto AKs weren't legal to own in most of Australia at the time, and besides the Soviets weren't exactly keen on selling weapons to NATO states. Semi-auto AKs didn't hit the scene until later. I'm sure there would have been a few that the Australian military kept around for to familiarize troops with enemy systems, but that wouldn't be many in the grand scheme of things. On the Glock, they weren't invented until 1982. A few may have made it there for military/police testing if we believe the apocalypse occurred a bit after that time, but again not many.
Like I said though it is really just a pet peeve of mine. I'm a huge firearms guy so I notice little anachronisms like that in a lot of films. Heck, since this is a reboot they may have moved the apocalypse back a bit leaving my arguments null and void.
In the end it won't stop me from enjoying the film.
Modern Wastelander wrote:Oh, now it is entirely a possiblity, but I'm speaking from a late '70s/early '80s perspective, when the apocalypse seems to have happened in the movie universe.
You'll have to remember though that Fury Road takes place 45 years in to the future from now as if the apocalypse happens tomorrow, which is why modern cars with more of electrical components would be rendered useless and why gangs and survivors salvaged old motors and what we see in the film.
Modern Wastelander wrote:Oh, now it is entirely a possiblity, but I'm speaking from a late '70s/early '80s perspective, when the apocalypse seems to have happened in the movie universe.
You'll have to remember though that Fury Road takes place 45 years in to the future from now as if the apocalypse happens tomorrow, which is why modern cars with more of electrical components would be rendered useless and why gangs and survivors salvaged old motors and what we see in the film.
Well.... I actually did not know that. Heh, kind of an important bit to miss, isn't it? I guess my points are invalid afterall. Hey, guess the weaponry won't bug me anymore! Glad they found a way to keep the classic cars in the film. I feel modern vehicles would just ruin the whole art style.
As a reply to below (I don't feel like cluttering the thread with another of my posts) yeah, being in the present time would definitely make AKs and Glocks pretty common. I was just thinking if this was same time span as the original three they'd be rather out of place, but since they've brought the film into the present all is well, and I rescind my previous criticism.
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You'll have to remember though that Fury Road takes place 45 years in to the future from now as if the apocalypse happens tomorrow, which is why modern cars with more of electrical components would be rendered useless and why gangs and survivors salvaged old motors and what we see in the film.
Exactly, and there have been quite a few situations where police have found bikies with Ak 47s and Ak 47 replicas in the last couple of years, and that's with law and order relatively intact.
Jump ahead 10 to 15 years in the Fury Road universe with law and order and social decay and what's to stop the bikies bringing them in by the truckload.
Also its estimated that there are about 45,000 police officers in Australia, lets say only a quarter of them carry standard issue Glocks, that's 11,250 Glocks somewhere and there would need to be ammo stored stored somewhere to support that.
Modern Wastelander wrote:
An FAL would have been a much better choice being a military issue weapon in country and therefore would be rather common post-apocalypse. This is just pure nitpicking on my part though, and it won't stop me from enjoying the movie unless I start seeing things like the FN SCAR or G36.
Actually, the Australians retired their FN-FALs in the 80s/90s in favor of a license copy of the Steyr AUG. The FALs are probably either being held in reserve, or have been surplused and/or handed off to places like Papua New Guinea and East Timor.
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Modern Wastelander wrote:
An FAL would have been a much better choice being a military issue weapon in country and therefore would be rather common post-apocalypse. This is just pure nitpicking on my part though, and it won't stop me from enjoying the movie unless I start seeing things like the FN SCAR or G36.
Actually, the Australians retired their FN-FALs in the 80s/90s in favor of a license copy of the Steyr AUG. The FALs are probably either being held in reserve, or have been surplused and/or handed off to places like Papua New Guinea and East Timor.
I was speaking in terms of original movie canon, but I'm starting to wonder on when the apocalypse is supposed to have occurred. I always thought it was the early 1980s, but after a bit of reading it seems many hold it to have happened in the early 2000s. Not sure which anymore. My original post assumed that the breakdown of society reached its apex in the late 1970s early 1980s, and therefore weapons development with it.
As I stated three or four times now, doesn't quite matter anymore since they bumped the timeline of film up from where the originals were. I did not know they had done that hence my criticism of what seemed to me at the time to be an anachronism, as I wrongly believed the apocalypse was set in the early 1980s like I held that it was in the original canon.
My apologies for the confusion and minor thread derailment.
I just saw a storyboard from the magazines which has Max fighting off the bad guys and getting shot with a crossbow, weird that it looks too violent to be on PG13 or maybe that one was cut from the movie ?
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